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LLMs Judging LLMs: A Simplex Perspective

arXiv:2505.21972v3 Announce Type: replace-cross Abstract: Given the challenge of automatically evaluating free-form outputs from large language models (LLMs), an increasingly common solution is to use LLMs themselves as the judging mechanism, without any gold-standard scores. Implicitly, this practice accounts for only sampling variability (aleatoric uncertainty) and ignores uncertainty about judge quality (epistemic uncertainty). While this is justified if judges are perfectly accurate, it is unclear when such an approach is theoretically valid and practically robust. We study these questions for the task of ranking LLM candidates from a novel geometric perspective: for $M$-level scoring systems, both LLM judges and candidates can be represented as points on an $(M-1)$-dimensional probability simplex, where geometric concepts (e.g., triangle areas) correspond to key ranking concepts. This perspective yields intuitive theoretical conditions and visual proofs for when rankings are identifiable; for instance, we provide a formal basis for the ``folk wisdom'' that LLM judges are more effective for two-level scoring ($M=2$) than multi-level scoring ($M>2$). Leveraging the simplex, we design geometric Bayesian priors that encode epistemic uncertainty about judge quality and vary the priors to conduct sensitivity analyses. Experiments on LLM benchmarks show that rankings based solely on LLM judges are robust in many but not all datasets, underscoring both their widespread success and the need for caution. Our Bayesian method achieves substantially higher coverage rates than existing procedures, highlighting the importance of modeling epistemic uncertainty.

OCR or Not? Rethinking Document Information Extraction in the MLLMs Era with Real-World Large-Scale Datasets

arXiv:2603.02789v1 Announce Type: cross Abstract: Multimodal Large Language Models (MLLMs) enhance the potential of natural language processing. However, their actual impact on document information extraction remains unclear. In particular, it is unclear whether an MLLM-only pipeline--while simpler--can truly match the performance of traditional OCR+MLLM setups. In this paper, we conduct a large-scale benchmarking study that evaluates various out-of-the-box MLLMs on business-document information extraction. To examine and explore failure modes, we propose an automated hierarchical error analysis framework that leverages large language models (LLMs) to diagnose error patterns systematically. Our findings suggest that OCR may not be necessary for powerful MLLMs, as image-only input can achieve comparable performance to OCR-enhanced approaches. Moreover, we demonstrate that carefully designed schema, exemplars, and instructions can further enhance MLLMs performance. We hope this work can offer practical guidance and valuable insight for advancing document information extraction.
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