I didn’t expect to find myself face to face with leaders and activists from the “Make America Healthy Again” movement in respectful dialogue, or to consider inviting one into a public health classroom. But that’s exactly where I found myself this spring.

At a national public health meeting in March, I attended a session that brought together public health professionals, physicians, and MAHA leaders for a rare, good-faith conversation. I went out of curiosity. I left with a level of clarity I hadn’t expected — and a few unexpected connections.

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The past few weeks have been nothing but discouraging for those of us who helped create the Make America Healthy Again movement, including a silly executive order on glyphosate that feels anathema to what we have fought for. I’d be lying if I said that my heart hasn’t been bent toward repentance for my part in the whole thing. I helped champion Bobby Kennedy as a campaign volunteer, and when he joined up with then-candidate Donald Trump, I reluctantly decided that the trade-offs were worth what I believed Kennedy could advocate for within the walls of a Trump White House: the best fixes for a very sick and broken nation. 

Yet I found myself recently, and reluctantly, headed to the citadel of arrogance: Washington (well, Arlington, Va., to be more specific). At the invitation of Brinda Adhikari — one of the hosts of the podcast “Why Should I Trust You?” — I attended the Association of Schools and Programs of Public Health’s annual meeting, where I spoke on a panel about engaging in civil conversation in a session called “A Dialogue Between Academic Public Health and MAHA.”

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